miércoles, septiembre 13, 2006

Miller jura bandera


Como decía en el post de la entrada anterior, puede que esto sea parte de la respuesta de Morrison a Miller (y os doy mas leña a los salsa rosa que quereis civil war):

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Frank Miller leerá un ensayo donde hablará de su educación y su recién encontrada creencia en el patriotismo y la bandera americana, y sobre el 11 de Septiembre, como parte de la serie THIS I BELIEVE de la NPR, que se emite cada lunes en MORNING EDITION.De NPR:Inspirado por el programa de radio de los cincuenta del mismo nombre, THIS I BELIEVE presenta a americanos de todas las clases expresando sus creencias y valores esenciales en ensayos cortos y personales.Con su ensayo, Miller se une a una lista impresionante que incluye al Senador John McCain, el ídolo del skateboard Tony Hawk, el mago Penn Jillette, el ilusionista David Copperfield, Bill Gates y Colin Powell. Además de la emisión de su ensayo durante MORNING EDITION, estará disponible para ser leído y oído en npr.org este lunes. La web incluye el audio y la transcripción de todos los ensayistas anteriores.Después de no haber creído nunca en el patriotismo ni en la bandera americana, Miller explica cómo los sucesos del 11 de septiembre dieron forma a su nueva creencia en el patriotismo y la bandera. Hablando sobre el 11 de septiembre, Miller dice: "Yo me dedico a escribir y dibujar tebeos. Parte de ese trabajo consiste en inventarme villanos, en imaginar la maldad humana en todas sus formas. Y ahora ha aparecido un villano de verdad. Un villano de verdad asesinó a mis vecinos. En mi ciudad. En mi país". Y añade Miller: "Ahora ya no creo que el patriotismo sea un cuento, un invento anticuado y sentimental. El patriotismo es autoconservación. Creo que el patriotismo es esencial para la supervivencia de una nación".

Pero no os piqueis, yo diría que Morrison solo quiere desentonar un poco la influencia de Miller en Batman y criticar el proyecto de Batman Holy Terror que Miller prepara.

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He dicho, y no lo escribo en latín porque estoy borracho

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cierto es que parece que cualquiera, hasta el respetado Miller, cunado se los tocan, les sale a todos el venote americano, que parece que fueron ellos los que inventaron la libertad, y que o no entendemos o ellos separan mucho, el sentido de patriotismo y nacionalismo.
Pero lo que me interesa es que:
Miller quiere experimentar la propaganda de los años 40 en el comic (con personajes pegando a Hitler y Stalin) con Batman zurrando a bin Laden (y la caricatura de personas reales va formando parte de su evolución como dibujante).
Por otro lado, quiere implicar a los personajes de ficción en el mundo real "cómo si resolvieran nuestro males", como si se implicaran en la Historia del mundo.
Y Morrison rechaza esto, defiende la ficción como elemento de ficción donde experimentar ideas metafóricamente.
No?

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Mira, me parece muy razonable esa exposición...
Eso si, el tema de putear el patriotismo ajeno siempre me ha chorreado un poco, porque es difícil, a lo mejor el más descastao de aquí allí sería un ultra desos con bandera en la caravana.
Está claro que aquí ser patriota está mal visto.
Solo porque nuestras claves culturales sean distintas no significa que sean mejores.
Y menos las nuestras:
España cada vez da más asco.

Málaga ciudad Estado ya.

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Miller es un genio, pero analizando su discurso encuentro:
a) que auqnue hable con sentimiento y el corazón en la mano, cuando habla de cómo pensaba que la bandera no significaba nada, se situa en un estilo de narración confesional, como de "pensamiento de etapa de juventud / generacional"
b) viene a decir que la representación del villano, del "Mal", queda empobrecida frente al "mal real" (aqui anoto que es el punto de inflexión en la discrepancia de Morrison y diría por el escocés que no es por comparar, sino que ambos terminos no tendrían porque compararse)y esto sería como defender un poco que las historias de pijamas no abarcan tanto como las historias "gafapastillas", ya que al tratar sobre pajas de amor, soledad, sociedad etc son más "realistas".
c) Miller instituye el patriotismo como conciencia de unidad del pueblo americano contra la hostia que le han dado, contra "los que nos quieren muertos" y ahi, una de dos, o los yankis pecan de ingenuos o no desarrollan bien todas las repercusiones de lo que están hablando, porque sin querer posicionarme en el tópico del anti-américano, ell 11 S ha sido una catástrofe pirotecnica en el suelo sagrado del 1er mundo, donde no se concevía eso, y ellos parece que, al sacralizar sus muertos (digo yo que algún pederesta tipico topico o narcotraficante habría entre tantos) son incapaces de comprender que ni son queridos por todo el mundo bajo las razones que sean y que la cultura moderna se ha convertido en una maraña de redes conflictivas que matan "individuos colaterales" sin distinción de bandera y credo.
Los comics no hablaran mucho sobre las victimas del Joker o de los Centinelas, y estos importarán poco si alguno de nosotros tiene un tumor o si esa noche no trempa, pero los peridicos y demagogos tampoco dicen mucho más sobre las victimas del mundo real, y en amabos casos podemos comparar que la realidad es un caos y que ser asesinado es un hecho de no mucha deficultad aleatoria.

Anónimo dijo...

totalmente

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Morrison es Europeo, Miller yanki, los yankis comen aparte en muchas cosas.

A veces olvidamos que hablamos de un pais que arrojó dos bombas atómicas sobre Japón.
Cuidadito con el patriotismo yanki y cuidaito con creer que ciertas corrientes de pensamiento o ciertos actos no van a volver a darse.
De todos modos, todas estas elucibraciones no servirán de nada cuando dentro de diez años los chinos dominen el mundo.

Nuevo Orden Mundial.

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el totem de china no debería ser un dragon, sino un terrorifico dios insecto

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